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    In an earlier post (the poll for 'How long has it been for everyone?') I wrote this at the bottom of all the comments. I wanted to copy and paste it in a new post just in case people have stopped reading the other poll because it got quite lengthy. Incidentally, the number of people that have responded is amazing (to the poll 'How long has it been for everyone?' But I wanted to just add these words. Hopefully, they will help. If you have no time, please bookmark it and come back and read it. If you've already read this on the other poll, then you've already read it. But here goes....


    Could it be that it is the FEAR we are fearing and not the actual act itself? Could it be a control issue, rather than the act itself? Are we identifying the ugly feeling of the 'thought' of it to the worst thing ever, to the thought that it is a weakness? In other words, think about it this way..... When you are ill with it, you are scared and it feels disgusting. Somewhere along the way, you trained yourself to think (and subconsciously remember) that the feeling that comes along with it is lack of control (to stop it), ugly, gross, scary, and nerve wracking. All of those negative feelings are 'posted' to the 'instance' of getting sick. We fear the fear of it. Essentially, we are our own worst enemies. **IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE DO NOT FEAR THE ACT ITSELF, BUT RATHER WE FEAR WHAT WE HAVE TOLD OURSELVES ABOUT THE ACT? Hmmmm.... food for thought? And why does it get worse?? Possibly because let's say that you 'feared it like the plague' one year when you heard a lot about people getting ill with the virus. You were in fear constantly of getting. You became obsessive about washing yur hands, not getting too close to people, etc. You were creating a space in your mind (not even realizing it) for the newly grown fear. You created a habitat for the fear to live in, right? You even prepped yourself by going out and buying hand sanitizer, Lysol, anti-bacterial soaps (cause God forbid regular soap isn't good enough, right???) and then as you wer putting mental energy into this, you were allowing the habitat in your mind to enlarge the more thought you put into it. Why wouldn't it get worse and worse the more you heard about it? It scared you more, and your mind became used to that scared feeling. It became habit. You got used to the fear because you gave it a home in your mind, again, not even realizing it..... so, henceforth, you gave it power to dominate your thoughts and feelings.... and now you're angry, and you just want it to go away, right??? So what do you do??? First, give yourself a chance to figure out if something in your earlier years made you fear the lack of control? Did someone treat you like crap and scare you and you associated the feeling of 'gross, ugly, scary, mean and uncontrollable' to the event or person? Look at those words again that I just wrote. Think about it.... did something or someone make you feel those things as a kid? Did you somehow learn it? What if you can't remember? What if you have no idea? What if you don't want to go back and face whatever that is that could be responsible for your fear of lack of control? What if you don't believe in any of these things anyway and think it's all crap? And what if you're just confused and scared and wanna make it go away?? What do you do???


    You stand up and you fight against it and you kick it out of your mind. FORCE it to leave! ALLOW yourself to make the DECISION to punish this nasty 'thing' called a 'fear'. Realize that you unknowingly put it there, but it CAN be removed. You have all the tools necessary to DEFY it (ie: charcoal tablets, stomach meds, etc) And once you got sick, and it may have been scary, but it doesn't need to CONTROL you. You fear the fear. You fear what you'v
    Hey everyone, Check out the penguins to the left... Now imagine doing that to someone you can\'t stand! Hehehehee.... like an ex, mother in law, blah, blah... Just my 2 cents for the day! -Jill

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    yes. for most it is an issue of loosing control. I know its that way for me. Its more of a fear of the unknown.. because most of us haven't done it in a long time, the act gets built up to something more horrible than it actually is.


    anxiety is a good thing, believe it or not. It allows humans to react to situations that are dangerous in an appropriate way. In emetophobics, this fear becomes irrational and interferes with everyday life. Part of the reason is probably genetics. Environmentalso plays a role. what you learn from others (modelling) can impact the way you behave. there are lots of theories of why some people inherit the tendency to be anxious and others don't, but those are the most understood. The brain relies on certain neurotransmitters that control mood and emotion in the brian, and when these neurotransmitters can't function properly, this can create problems, which is belived to also contribute to the problem. there is no one reason why we all end up this way, at least not one discovered yet.


    its good that you are asking questions and trying to understand this anxiety disorder. It can be very frustrating to try to understand whats going on with you and why your behavior can be abnormal, which is exactly why I became a pysch major. Learning about the brain-body connections has helped me understand a big part of myself.


    ~*Jill*~ Teacher, Advanced BSc in Psychology

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    couldn't have said it better! seriously, jill, you are an inspiration to us all, i think if you can think like that, you are half way to beating this. i'll join you in kicking ass, because that just enforced my view on how stupid this 'fear' is. congratulations, on a wonderful bit of writing,

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    I agree, Jill you did an awesome job of explaining the possibilities of how ppl (inherit or develope) a phobia like this. I've been living...or should i say "trying to" live the "KICK THIS PHOBIA'S ASS" way, for the last how many years...most of the time with positive effects :-) So yes, it CAN and DOES work...as long as you realize there will always be times of feeling like a failure, or times of falling flat on your face (so to speak), but you just pick yourself up, brush yourself off, and continue on with the KICK IT'S ASS attitude!! hehe! Sometimes after a setback, you start off again stronger than before, with better success each time you fight back!!

    The more times you SHOW IT WHO'S BOSS, the further along you can go, and in time you will begin doing things you NEVER would have done before! [img]smileys/smilies_04.gif[/img] You begin doing things, without even thinking twice about it!

    I would never say we can be 100% "cured", but we CAN learn to live our lives 99% fear free! We will always need to have a "rational" form of anxiety..everyone should have that, even those without a phobia...cuz yes, like Babydoll said...we would be in BIG trouble without that normal "fight or flight" response in REAL cases of life or death situations. But we DON'T need that type of anxiety for a God given, normal bodily function as vomiting!! Cuz THAT act in itself could possibly (and already has in some ppl's lives) SAVED their lives!! As in the case of poisoning, etc.

    Good job Jill! I surely don't think anyone who read your post, would take offense!

    God bless!

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    For God has not given us a spirit of fear; but of power and of love and of a sound mind. 2 Timothy 1:7

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    jill - you rock. i like the way you personified the fear, very clever. thanks for that
    One day your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure its worth watching.

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    Love to all! Let's rock! -Your friend, Jill ([email protected])
    Hey everyone, Check out the penguins to the left... Now imagine doing that to someone you can\'t stand! Hehehehee.... like an ex, mother in law, blah, blah... Just my 2 cents for the day! -Jill

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    Hey there....just out of curiosity, how do you "kick its ass"?





    I want to.



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    Hey Dalmo,


    Did you read my post above (very top of list)? Feel free to email me if you want at [email protected] if you wanna talk more. I'm still the emet from hell but have been doing great this year for some reason! Would love to chat!


    -Jill
    Hey everyone, Check out the penguins to the left... Now imagine doing that to someone you can\'t stand! Hehehehee.... like an ex, mother in law, blah, blah... Just my 2 cents for the day! -Jill

 

 

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