Good news.

[xroofusx]

This morning i went to my doctor as i was getting really sick of feeling hungry everyday and wanting to eat but starving from being to scared of having a full stomach. So i went in and i got really upset and started crying in there ( [img]smileys/smilies_09.gif[/img] felt like a right baby) and he said what is it that your really scared of and he knows i don't like v* but he asked what is it? and i told him staright "Im really scared of v* and sv and i need to know what to do because i can't eat" he gave me the prochlorazine tablets and i asked him what do they stop me v* in? and would it work if i caught a sv and his answer was Yes! no matter where the sickness is coming from, and if it was from a sv, fp, anxiety sickness anything and he said they would prevent me from v* what ever the cause, the only time they don't work is if you leave it to long, the n* is so bad that it takes longer for it to go, so if you take them in time they will work, just like when people have painkillers, some people wait for the pain to get so bad before taking anything by the time they do it takes longer for the pain to go as the pain reached its highest level, i also asked would my body get rid of the toxins though and he said yes they would find another way of escaping your body (down that end). So thats put my mind at total rest at the fact i can eat what i like and not have to worry about v*, just making sure i took them if i ever started to feel sick, i think theres so much stuff on the net about what tabs are for what, but i don't think all these sites always know what there talking about, because some i've read some tabs don't stop this and don't do that, but surely if the doctor i went to has been a doctor for at least 17 years and worked in A&E wouldn't he know what they do and what they don't do?. So im wondering if people are really that scared why don't they take one? or is it a lot of people on here want to face it themselves and not want medication and beat the phobia??

[jodi054]

i've got the same tablets and they work for me !!!


WELL DONE FOR GOING TO SEE THE DOCTOR !!

[xroofusx]

Hey, awesome! [img]smileys/smilies_01.gif[/img] thanks for the reply, i've spoke to a few other people who have taken them and they havnt v* in over 20 years, so im guessing they really do work no matter what the cause if you take them in time, so i can finally eat, without the huge worry of v*. *goes for a pizza* lol

xx

[daffodil]

That's great, Roofus! I hope you do go and eat that pizza! Hugs!

[xroofusx]

Thanks [img]smileys/smilies_01.gif[/img] , it nice to finally be able to relax about eating [img]smileys/smilies_01.gif[/img].

*hugs* xx

[lucinda]

wow, those sound great. I'm going to ask my doctor about those! That's just what I'm looking for, something that will for sure stop v* for any reason. I've always beleived it WILL come out the other end if need be, so v* is a pointless function to me. (not asking to be proven wrong, this is my personal beleif) Edited by: lucinda

[blondie90]

good for you roofus!!! i am definitely going to look into those pills! i hope you start to feel much better from here on in :-)

[xroofusx]

Hey, yeah my mind calmed down a bit when i went in there as all i wanted was to eat, so he said to take them, and eat what i like as i need to put weight on as i only weigh 78lbs. But i won't reley on them everyday of my life, its more a safety guard so i can eat. Yeah he said the toxins would come out another way, meaning d*.

blondie90: Hey thanks =]. My first test is to eat some pizza *drools* lol.

xx
Edited by: xroofusx

[daffodil]

can you get stemetil in the US??

[xroofusx]

Yeah i think you can, it might be under another name though? The acctual drug itself is called prochlorazine, but its stemetil and i think buccestem have it in, i have them to, for if you feel that sick or you can't take pills you stick it under your lip and it dissloves without having to go into your stomach, i had the injection form of it once when i was v* with to much stomach acid and it stopped it straight away and made me fall to sleep lol.

[Babydoll]

While I'm glad you went to your doctor ( great step) I don't belive the way in which your doctor handled it was all that great. he may not realize the extent of the phobia, and may just think you have a normal level of fear for anything such as V'ing. I think you should go back to him and talk to him about seeing a pyschologist, who better understands how avioidance of v'ing can make the phobia worse.


I don't belive taking these pills is an effective coping strategy, because its an aviodance technique. By avioding v'ing, you will never be able to face it and overcome the fear.


I'm guilty of being a little glad about these pills myself - but I know in reality it would just make things worse for me.


Again, You did a great job by going and talking to your doctor about it, that must have been hard. I think doctors don't know everything, especially if they're dealing with something out of their field ( anxiety disorders) which is why most will send you to a refurrel (sp?). I know that Ive gotten so good at hiding my emet that I could probably (subconsciously) fool a doctor into thinking It wasn't extreme. I'm not saying you did this, but sometimes its easier to take the simple way out.


Quote from a movie that I can't remember the name " usually the hard way and the right way are the same thing"

[xroofusx]

Hey babydoll.

Thanks for your reply and i agree with you. Im not going to take them all the time, just more if i needed one so i know i have them. Im seeing a lot of people at the moment for my anxiety, im also starting thearpy soon for the phobia, but more about building up my eating. I totally agree though with what your saying, about getting help for the cause and not covering it up with medications as it is the easier way out, but i think to have them there for safety makes me feel a lot better, but i think getting help to solve the phobia is the main thing that needs to be done. Thank you for your advice. [img]smileys/smilies_01.gif[/img]

xx

[sherbear]

When you are ready to get rid of your safety net, ie the pills, you will. Until then, enjoy the pizza and have a slice for me while you're at it!

[xroofusx]

Haha thank you! [img]smileys/smilies_01.gif[/img] *has a slice for you and the site* lol

xx

[kutekim1217]

Have you started the med yet? There is nothing wrong with feeling full hon. My best friend isnt an emet but she hates that full feeling and she was bulimic for 12 years. You can eat healthy and not reach the point of having that full feeling, but you will be healthy. Did you get that pizza? Kim

[xroofusx]

Hey, yeah i had some pizza!! *drools* lol, awww im sorry about your freind, yeah i dislike the feeling of food in my stomach, but im guessing that could be its not used to having it in there and it needs to get used to it again. I've been told to also take painkillers if my stomach hurts as i think its trying to expand from being small from not eating well. Thank you all for your replys [img]smileys/smilies_01.gif[/img].

*offers people pizza* lol

xx

[daffodil]

I have to say (in the spirit of good-natured debate-not to start an argument) that I think what Roofus' doctor did was right. If she is having trouble eating enough to stay healthy, and this medication helps, then the first priority should be to get her eating normally. You can't work on any psychological problems if you are too nutritionally deficient to even think straight. I believe, in my limited knowledge of the situation, that getting her eating is the first step, deal with the rest of it after that very big step is accomplished.

[mjewell]

I have to say (in the spirit of good-natured debate-not to start an argument) that I think what Roofus' doctor did was right. If she is having trouble eating enough to stay healthy, and this medication helps, then the first priority should be to get her eating normally. You can't work on any psychological problems if you are too nutritionally deficient to even think straight. I believe, in my limited knowledge of the situation, that getting her eating is the first step, deal with the rest of it after that very big step is accomplished.

I agree with daffodil. I also wanted to add my two cents about "avoidance." I do think avoidance is bad if it makes you detach from life (i.e. not going out, not taking care of your family, not enjoying life, etc.), but I'm not convincedit is so bad to be "avoidant" by taking something that will stop you from vomiting. If I had to venture a guess, I would say a good percentage of people, emet or non-emet would take a pill that would make them feel better and stop them from vomiting if they could.


I mean really, what's the big harm in fearing V* and avoiding it if it isn't otherwise messing up your life? I know this sounds weird coming from someone who has this phobia and hates it, but I am pretty pessimistic about ever being completely cured. I just don't really believe that most people with anxiety disorders will ever truly be "cured." Maybe it will go into submkission, but not cured. Sage is an exception along with others I'm sure, but like I said, I'm not really convinced this phobia/anxiety can be cured with therapy. I'm more about controlling it right now.

[daffodil]

I do think avoidance is bad if it makes you detach from life (i.e. not going out, not taking care of your family, not enjoying life, etc.), but I'm not convinced it is so bad to be "avoidant" by taking something that will stop you from vomiting

You said it perfectly, Mjewell. I feel really strongly about this because lately I have been having some problems eating, going out, doing the most basic chores, and because of this constant preoccupation, and often being lightheaded from not eating properly, I am impatient with my husband and kids. That's no way to live, and unfair to everyone.
I'm not sure if a "cure" is possible, but for those of us experiencing debilitating symptoms, just getting thru the day would be nice.

[suze]

I agree with the last few posts, you really need to eat. When you are a normal weight and your body is used to food, you're well nourished etc., then you will be ready to address your emet. Not eating is killing you slowly and I applaud your doctor for prioritising your problems - he sounds great!


I do agree with Babydoll though, the emet does need to be addressed, but that can wait for now. I'm so happy for you Roofus, take it steady though to start with, but go and treat yourselfto all those foods you've dreamed of for so long, you deserve it!

[Babydoll]

I wasn't sure if you meant this was going to be a long term coping strategy.. I'm glad it isn't! As long you plan to take steps in the future where you won't *need* these pills to get through the day, then thats great.


If it works now then thats great, I would just hate to see someone become dependant on them. If it makes the first few steps easier for you, then I can see how it would be a good thing!


I just don't want anyone to think that these anti vomiting pills are a "cure" for emet, when there are better ways of treating it in the future.


I also agree that anxiety disorders are not cured, but made managable as time goes on. I remember a time where I used to carry around anti nausa pills, and I don't need to anymore, so it is possible to get there.. even though I still feel anxious sometimes.


roofus, I have to comment on the tact in which you post. I know I can be a bit harsh in what I say, and some people could have taken it as an insult. I'm glad you responded the way you did and I'm happy your open to future treatment!


edited: I just wanted to add, that, in my opinion, an anti anxiety medication may have been a better choice rather than an anti v'ing pill. Just my 2 cents, then you wouldn't be as anxious about eating... and you would be fighting the phobia by not giving into it. What do you think about that?Edited by: Babydoll

[xroofusx]

Hey, thank you everyone for your replys, on this one i have to agree with um everyone? lol as i know that it won't be dealing with the underlining problem, but as i don't eat, the more my brain dosn't work, then the more i don't want to get out, so i can't get help, if that makes any sense? lol. But now its put my mind at rest at least for a bit, i can eat when i feel hungry and have the foods i have wanted for over a year. But i totally agree about getting help for the anxiety of it also.

xx

[trinity_13]

Roofus i was in your situation last year hun, i was so frail and ill that i was a couple of months away from the boneyard at one point! I have clawed my way back to an almost 'normal' way of life now (well as normal as an emet life can be[img]smileys/smilies_02.gif[/img])I have put on a much needed 28lbs and i am actually starting to enjoy food again and not see it as the enemy that i did before. I am so glad that you went to your doc and got some reassurance from him, be it in tablet formand the fact that he listened to you and took your phobia seriously. I actually got hooked on anti emets when i was at my worst last year i was taking up to 15 a day and its not fun as they did have some serious side effects on my body but at the time i was emotionally dependant on them. My advice to you would be to try your hardest NOT to take the tablets he has given you, take that comfort that you know they are there if you need them as it is very easy to get in the habit of taking them 'just in case'


You are going the right way to get through and fight against this phobia, you just need to get your confidence back in food and your own body. It is difficult once you start eating again as you do feel very full very quickly but as long as you can accept it is just a bit of discomfort as your tum stretches you will be fine.


Good luck hun, keep fighting and believe in yourself as i believe you can do it!


Trinity x

[xroofusx]

Hey, thank you very much for the reply. Im really sorry to hear you had problems eating to, but its good that your making a recovery in that. Yeah i have them there, if i need them, but the last few times i've felt n* and he's told me to take one, i've dealt with it myself by making myself have some ginger biscuits and a cup of tea, as i know i only feel n* from my diet and anxiety, so i have not yet taken any, but the reasurance of having them there makes me feel a lot better to eat, so i have a safety net, but a few weeks back when i first started eating i had so much acid in my stomach burning it made me v*, but now its got used to having a little more, its finding it easier to cope with simple things like rice and toast again. Thank you very much, your support is very much appreciated [img]smileys/smilies_01.gif[/img] .

xx