People who LIKE v*

[ginger_saves]

I just don't get it.I recentlyread about and viewed asnapshot image of porno videos that show people v* on each other and heard about the v* porno craze n Japan of girls v* on each other...also it makes me think of Howard Stern( I do NOT like him, but years ago that station was the only station I could get when I was getting ready in the bathroom in the morning) and he had a guy on there who was always looking for women to v* on him. This has got to be the sickest fetish, right? I mean, a lot of us know what traumatized us as to why we are so terrified and disgusted by v* but can any experts on the board talk about what these twisted people's reasons might be for getting off on v*?? I just don't get it.

[hippychick]

I don't think any fetish is sick as long as it's consensual and it no one gets hurt (well unless they want to be[img]smileys/smilies_02.gif[/img]) I don't understand many of them and they're not my thing but whatever people wanna do they can do.

Having a V* fetish doesn't therefore mean that person is twisted. I don't understand why some people like to be peed on, or why some people think baby talk is sexy, or any number of other things people do for kicks. But like I say, whatever floats their boat. As long as no one is harmed and both parties give full consent.

[ginger_saves]

(haha) Well, to me the whole pee, #2 and v* thing is just so sick because this is bodily waste. I just don't see how someone can get off on that. Foot and pantyhose, bondage, spankfetish, and all that I don't care about -that is tame-but it'sreally messed upwhen a man is begging for women to v* on him. I mean, v*?!

[x hannah x]

... and there are people scared of v*ing, I mean what a freaky thing to be scared of! Twisted...


I don't think we're in a position to judge here.

[chicajojobe]

Yeah agreed.

It may be the scariest thing to us, but that doesn't mean we should judge. Just try not to think about it since it's the exact opposite of our phobia.

[hippychick]

Foot fetish, now there's something I don't get[img]smileys/smilies_02.gif[/img] I HATE feet I think they are just....blah I don't get how they are sexual to anybody. I have such an issue with feet. Practical as they may be haha. But hey everyone likes different things and it's a good thing too else the world would be boring.
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[ginger_saves]

Well, I thinka majority ofpeople in the world would think having sex while v* is twisted, whether they have an emet issue or not.Iam awareit is the exact opposite of this phobia-just wanted to get an interesting discussion flowing...

[hippychick]

There are a lot of people in the world who think being gay is twisted. Doesn't mean they are right. Look I know V* is never a pleasant thing and the majority of non emets probably would go...yuck at the thought of it, as do I. But I refuse to judge someone and call them twisted for what they do in the privacy of their own bedroom.

[johnlp]

Foot fetish, now there's something I don't get[img]smileys/smilies_02.gif[/img] I HATE feet I think they are just....blah I don't get how they are sexual to anybody. I have such an issue with feet. Practical as they may be haha. But hey everyone likes different things and it's a good thing too else the world would be boring.

LOL! I am right there with you. I neither find feet sexy nor appealing in any way at all.

[californiagirl]

(haha) Well, to me the whole pee, #2 and v* thing is just so sick because this is bodily waste. I just don't see how someone can get off on that. Foot and pantyhose, bondage, spankfetish, and all that I don't care about -that is tame-but it'sreally messed upwhen a man is begging for women to v* on him. I mean, v*?!

I agree here! I mean, think about it: This is stuff that we flush down the toilet because we obviously don't wanna have it lying around the house on the floors, etc., let alone our beds!!!! It is GROSS, it STINKS, and it's just yuck!


S & M, feet, men wearing diapers, are all weird fetishes too, but not gross in a stinky offensive bodily fluid way, come on now!

[calibmom24]

All I can say is YUCK!!!!

[rubysoho120]

That is just scary and weird....but whatever...people are strange

[chicajojobe]

There are a lot of people in the world who think being gay is twisted. Doesn't mean they are right. Look I know V* is never a pleasant thing and the majority of non emets probably would go...yuck at the thought of it, as do I. But I refuse to judge someone and call them twisted for what they do in the privacy of their own bedroom.

And besides that, a majority people would say that people like us are crazy since our fear of v*ing consumes almost our entire lives.

We aren't saying that you have to like it or even understand it. I totally agree with you that any waste fetishes are the most unsexy thing in the world and make me feel completely squicky. It's just that calling emetophiles 'sick' or 'twisted' is judgemental.

[gumdropper1]

I think this is the most controversial issue in the emet world. A lot of emets go bonkers whenever someone mentions this fetish (which is called emetophilia by the way). I once tried to gather information about emetophilia for my FAQ site -- it has always been interesting to me that most emetophiles are or used to be emets -- but I was repulsed by some of the people who came forward. I also overhauled my Vomiting FAQ to make it less appealing to emetophiles.


If I recall correctly,this issue was raised on IES not too long ago and a lot of emets thought the posting was a hoax.

[daffodil]

Doug, I'd be interested to know what changed for the emets who developed a fetish with v*. How did that happen? Can you comment on this?
Oh, and as far as the debate goes, I think whatever happens in private between two consenting adults is a-okay. I may not like it, but to each their own.

[gumdropper1]

Daffodil, I never got to find out. I started a group for emetophiles so we could learn the answers to those questions and others, but I was irked by the people who joined only wanting to ask me about porn in certain video formats and telling me how much my surveys turned them on. I pulled the plug on the group without a word to any of them. I didn't get enough completed surveys to say anything useful.


I have learned that most emetophiles are only into looking at pics and watching others do it. The ones who actually puke as part of their fetish are pretty scarce.


Doug

[chemicalemotion]

I'm not trying to judge here, but people who enjoy being v* on, or enjoy it in the first place,are seriously mentally ill. Yeah, so we fear v*, but v* isn't SUPPOSED to be liked in the first place; to completely twist something around that was intended to be unpleasant, and turn it into some sexual thing is completely asinine. Just like some emets fear d*, there's people who enjoy it (sexually). I'm not trying to be morbid, but you can't sit there and say that's normal. Edited by: chemicalemotion

[madisonsmom]

Well my 16 yo son says that he doesnt mind v*. He said "in fact I like it!" No, he's not a porn star or anything but he says when he is sick that it makes him feel better when he v*!


What? Is this MY son?Edited by: madisonsmom

[johnlp]

Hey you're lucky! Both my kids (16 and 7) are Emets! It's hard enough to deal with my issues. I wish they could live without this dreaded curse!


My wife says I made them this way! I tell her, I can not make them clean their rooms or use good manners. What the hell makes you think I can make them become emets??? They don't listen to a word I say![img]smileys/smilies_05.gif[/img]

[californiagirl]

I'm not trying to judge here, but people who enjoy being v* on, or enjoy it in the first place,are seriously mentally ill. Yeah, so we fear v*, but v* isn't SUPPOSED to be liked in the first place; to completely twist something around that was intended to be unpleasant, and turn it into some sexual thing is completely asinine. Just like some emets fear d*, there's people who enjoy it (sexually). I'm not trying to be morbid, but you can't sit there and say that's normal.

AGREE! 100%

[crimgoddess]

I'm not trying to judge here, but people who enjoy being v* on, or enjoy it in the first place,are seriously mentally ill. Yeah, so we fear v*, but v* isn't SUPPOSED to be liked in the first place; to completely twist something around that was intended to be unpleasant, and turn it into some sexual thing is completely asinine. Just like some emets fear d*, there's people who enjoy it (sexually). I'm not trying to be morbid, but you can't sit there and say that's normal.

If you say that these people are seriously mentally ill, then you would also have to concede that you having an intense fear of it would also constitute being seriously mentally ill. How we are doesn't constitute just a 'normal dislike' of vomit- it has influenced how we organize our lives, and in many cases the anxiety is so severe that panic attacks occur, people aren't eating properly, and some have even quit jobs or decide NOT to go into a certain line of work because of the intense fear.


Yeah, we aren't 'supposed' to like vomit- but we also aren't 'supposed' to fear it so much we can't function properly.


Personally- I would rather be emetophilic. I would rather be turned on by it, because then it isn't taking anything away from my life. But to fear it so much that when put in a situation when I have to deal with it I can barely function, to me that is a more extreme problem- itis a more 'severe' type of 'mental illness'- if that is the label you wish to attach to it.


I guess I just echo the sentiments of some of the people above- I wouldn't want someone to judge me about this phobia, so I don't think it's fair to judge someone else because they have the opposite problem. What,s good for the goose is good for the gander- if I can steal a very old saying


*amber*Edited by: crimgoddess

[chemicalemotion]

That's a ridiculous viewpoint. There's a big difference between a sort of dysfunction that is motivated by fear, namely fear of something or someone that would, to the person experiencing the fear, impact their lives in a negative way. You're saying that it's better to accept something other than the fear if it's something that doesn't cause ourselves personal harm or require us to suffer ourselves. That's like saying it's better to be a pedophile than to be afraid of having one move in next door. Not everything can be pigeonholed into neat little compartments. Most people would agree that v* and v*ing is unpleasant. But by the same token, how many would agree that being v* ON can reasonably be called a source of pleasure and not raise a few eyebrows?

[sherbear]

First of all, I don't think it's really fair to compare emetophilia to pedophilia. It's not illegal (or even immoral in my opinion) to be turned on by v*. I know that most of us don't 'get it'. Some of us are even repulsed by the idea, but that doesn't give us the right to judge them as sick or freaky or mentally ill. I don't know how many times I've read posts where someone complains of how tired they are that people don't understand this fear and call them weird. I highly doubt that emetophiles chose this particular turn on. Just like we didn't choose to be emetophobes.

[ginger_saves]

You're saying that it's better to accept something other than the fear if it's something that doesn't cause ourselves personal harm or require us to suffer ourselves. That's like saying it's better to be a pedophile than to be afraid of having one move in next door. Not everything can be pigeonholed into neat little compartments.

Hi chemicalemotion- wow, excellent point!


I know what you all are saying-you madegood points as well.Everyone is talking abouthow it's in the emetophile'sbedroom and their business. So what aboutwhen these people are p*, v* and s* on each other and spreading the dreaded v* causingviruses we fear and talk about on this boardso much?You know they probably aren't washing their hands (if the are into this sick stuff)and who knows who it could be. I am not gonna be paranoid about this,but looks are deceiving and we don't know who these freaky emetophiles are ( the mailman? haha?). Maybe they are the same people who got Norovirus going. I'm sorry, It just plain is sick! If someone thinks I am sick for being an emet, then so be it. It's a sickness that CAN be cured. As for as emetophile-probably headed for serial killer status!!

[sherbear]

What?!? You've got to be kidding me!


I don't know about you, but I certainly don't know that they aren't washing they're hands afterwards. I'm sure that some of the people who like to be peed, pooped and vomited on know that it can be unsanitary. Do you mean to tell me that you think they just throw their p.j.'s right back on, kiss each other, roll over and call it a night? Yikes!


In reality, there are tons of people who don't like being barfed on for any reason (sexual or otherwise) and who also do not practice proper hygiene. To say that these 'freaky emetophiles' might be the same people who got Norovirus going seems silly and uniformed to me.


This topic really interested me so I decided to check Wikipedia for some more information. Here's a quote from that site:


For emetophiles, the sequence of "spasm, ejaculation, relief" in vomiting is erotically charged.


An online site theorizes, "vomiting was probably something either arousing or frightening to emetophiles at some point ... it aroused powerful emotions, and the emetophier called upon these emotions for the purpose of sexual gratification."


Emetophilia may be related to emetophobia, the fear of vomiting. Many emetophiles, ironically, continue to fear vomiting themselves despite the amount of time they spend fantasizing about other people vomiting.

[hippychick]

I don't think this is the kind of discussion emetophobes can have without feeling passionately[img]smileys/smilies_02.gif[/img]

I don't see it being linked to peadophiles at all, I don't even know where that came in. What 2 consenting adults do in their own home behind closed doors, with each other is their own business. It's nothing like the abuse a child can suffer at the hands of a peadophile. Not even comparable.

Most of us won't ever get this fascination. I don't get it, what's sexy about that? I don't get a lot of fetishes, but I don't have to get it as it's really nothing to do with me what anyone else likes doing.

And I don't think they can spread V* particles or whatever since they would probably be making themselves sick and that's a different thing. So you don't need to worry about that aspect.


Edited by: hippychick

[chemicalemotion]

The pedophile thing was an example, not a comparison.

[ginger_saves]

What?!? You've got to be kidding me!I don't know about you, but I certainly don't know that they aren't washing they're hands afterwards. I'm sure that some of the people who like to be peed, pooped and vomited on know that it can be unsanitary. Do you mean to tell me that you think they just throw their p.j.'s right back on, kiss each other, roll over and call it a night? Yikes!

Do you honestlythink that someone who enjoys being v* on really cares about that? Obviously, the hardcore emetophiles I mentioned that beg women to v* on them might just lay in their clothes for hours enjoying their token of love!! Nothing would surprise me with them.


Sorry I got such a hot topicstarted, folksbut this is just getting my blood pressure up and I am biting my tongue.haha..I won't comment anymore from this point on...[img]smileys/smilies_04.gif[/img]LATER!

[mistyeyes]

I'm not trying to judge here, but people who enjoy being v* on, or enjoy it in the first place,are seriously mentally ill. Yeah, so we fear v*, but v* isn't SUPPOSED to be liked in the first place; to completely twist something around that was intended to be unpleasant, and turn it into some sexual thing is completely asinine. Just like some emets fear d*, there's people who enjoy it (sexually). I'm not trying to be morbid, but you can't sit there and say that's normal.

Whether you are trying to judge or not, you are making a judgement. And your are right. Those who like v* ARE abnormal. Think about the purpose of v*. Your system is ridding itself of something that is bad for it or that it can't handle. There is nothing normal about enjoying something like that. However, if CONSENTING ADULTS are into something that is abnormal or unhealthy, they should be allowed the freedom to do as they wish. As long as I don't have to watch it. [img]smileys/smilies_02.gif[/img]

[x hannah x]

Abnormal is a really harsh word - I refuse to believe that in a site full of so many people none uf us get our kicks from something other people would find weird, but we have absolutely no right to sit here and condemn people for enjoying themselves in a way that is legal and does not hurt anyone.


If we think of it logically, all of us here are fairly abnormal ourselves, how many of us have run around in the cold, pulled our hair out, panicked and shook, just because we thought we might v*? And yet when anyone points out that this is a "weird" phobia we go in to defensive overdrive.


If there's a group of people who manage to enjoy themselves doing the thing that puts us through hell every day then I say more power to them and I wish it was me.