haha, sorry dani8mc, the questions that you thought should just be normal and sensible cautions are not at all 'normal and sensible' really! the great deal of ppl dont even think too much about v* until they are actually about to v*! I am with you and agree, ppl should avoid v*, and think it would be sensible, but to ppl without emit, they really dont give it much thought at all. One lovely person on this site who has umm 'gotten over her emit' can actually eat toast while holding v* bucket for her child! I think this, while gross - is something amazing! Oh, to be that carefree again!