Thanks for your replies that's loads of info.. Anytime I try google stuff everything that looks really good seems to come up around Devon but unfortunately for us that would mean over 8 hours driving time to get there right now I'm googling the distances of all the other names you's have given me lol I'm hoping to get somewhere under 5 hours away I'm in ayr so im pretty sure it's anything as far as Manchester .. I really loved southport but was really hoping to get another town similar just not the same place. Liverpool was a disaster for us we nearly ended up in Wales trying to find the town centre lol I'm just looking for a nice sea side resort kind of place nice beaches and amusement places etc for the kids