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    Ever noticed how we emets tend to think the worst when it comes to our stomachs and getting sick? We question everything, asking "What If?" over and over again that we wear out all possiblities,...and it still isn't good enough. Our brains must get tired at all the thinking we do under the span of a minute. Our brains are like a race track, with race cars as our thoughts zooming at light speeds.


    Panic attacks and high anxiety are very exhausting, both physically and mentally. At times, I canbecome tired and need to rest for a while after an anxiety attack. Sometimes my brain won't shut down, as I am still thinking the absolute worst. All of this negative thinking is a cycle that is common to most emet sufferers. I recognize it ina lot of posts here in the forum, and I can relate all too well with everyone. We are paraniod. We are scared. We fear the worst:throwing up. Getting sick is worst thing that can happen (at least to me).We tend to think in an obsessive fashion about our stomachs and anything that is related to throwing up. Factors such as a co-worker feeling ill, a loved one worshipping the porclinebowl,a stomach virus, germs,....all of these become major concerns for us.


    Lastwinter, there was a major stomach virus going around called the Avian flu. This virus was nasty and unforgiving. It wouldmake people get sick, have the runs, body aches and the like. Tenants who used to live on the third floor contracted this virus. Once I caught wind that they were infected, I went nutts withLysoland water and bleach in the halls of the building I live in. The owner approved ofmy actions, claiming that due to the severity and highperson to person transmission factor, the place should be drenched in bleach. I was angry at the tenants for not informing others that the virus was present;we had a newborn on the second floor. I was scared that I was going to get this virus, and get nauseated, than get sick, and throw up, and gag, and heave, and shake.....


    The more I thought about this, the more I began to feel panicky. "What if I get sick?" "What if I catch this and throw up?" "Dear God, don't let me throw up, I will do anything not to throw up...." My heart began to race. I was becoming restless. I could only focus onall the 'what if's'......my throat started to tighten up, my breathing had begun to geta little faster......"What if I get this virus from one of the doorknobs in the hallway? What if I was too late in washing everything down? What if I alreadyhave it and I am just not showing any symptoms yet? Where is my Gravol? What if I get so sick that I need to go to the hospital? I hate hospitals!!! What if I go there and see and hear other people get sick?".........


    Is this familiar?


    This is called the 'Catastrophic Thinking Pattern'. We thinkand assume theworst, and the more we think and dwell, the more physical symptoms ofpanic/anxietybecome present. Than we think more, and about what we are feeling, and things escalate. It doesn't take long for us to getto the top and have a full blown panic attack. Or we could hang in high anxiety for hours, even days.We become ruled by our fear, and nothing else matters.


    It took me a while to understand and recognizemy catastrophic thinking process. What if, what if, and more what if........so many things that I thought about I had absoltuley no control over...at least I thought.I didn't realize that Icould control what was happening. I could attempt and learn to control MYSELF. I had the power. I needed to learn to recognize my negative thought patterns in realtion to my fear of throwing up. Thequestion 'What if?' has become an indicator for me that I am starting this negative process on my head.Sometimes I cannot control it......we all have bad days. But the key is that when I can control it by saying "So What!" to a
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    Excellent post! I can totally relate and not just in emet related things, I do this w/ ALOT of things and have been called everything from a cynic (sp?) to a pessimist but it's liek these thoughts control everything. I always want to know what's going to/could happen and "prepare" which logically is absolutely ridiculous in some cases. I mean yeah a hurricane you should prepare for but other things you can't. I'm wondering if those of us w/ other issues (anxiety disorder, OCD etc) do this more so than those w/o? Like is it a symptom of the anxiety, OCD etc or is it a symptom of emet? Anyhwo thanks for posting this! You're absolutely right! My shrink says the same thing "do you hear how you are catastrophizing everything?"
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    I admire you sparky. You really are smarter than the average bear
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    You know you are right about catstrohpic thinking and I do it all the time and not just with my phobia. It's not easy to say "So what" To my phobia but I guess that's what I'm going to have to start doing. My friend always talks to me about my phobia and he says, "So you throw up...BLEH and it's done. What's so bad about that?" And so lately I've been trying to think of it that way, just "BLEH" And it's over. It's been helping me a lot to think that way...I am by NO MEANS over my fear but it's helped me get out of the house a lot more thinking that way!


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    I thank you for your compliment, but I am not smarter than anyone here. I chose to educate myself about this phobia, and about panic and anxiety as much as I could. I am still learning.


    Knowledge is power. Use it as another weapon against yourfear.
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    You hit the nail on the head here Sparky...that is exactly how we think...it's so sad..but like you said..we have to try to program our minds to think differently...it's so hard...but we have to try to fight this and win....for our own sanity and a happy life....Thanks you have brought tears to my eyes...Kate

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    Good post, Sparky- I agree that the more you know, the better, and so I've read a bunch of books as well. A great one is called Freedom from Fear by Howard Liebgold. It talks all about the catastrophic thinking pattern and ways to stop it. Honestly I would strongly recommend that everyone read it- in fact, maybe I'll make a post about it. Thanks for the great post!
    \"We have nothing to fear but fear itself.\"

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    No - you're brilliant, Sparky. You're one of the ones who will make it.


    Keep up the good work.
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    I can't express how uplifting it is to come on here and see a post such as this one. We need more of this around here. Thank you Sparky.
    \"This too shall pass\"

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    Again, I just wanted to bring this thread back to help benefit those that have not seen it.
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    I try to change my thinking patterns. When my son was sick I was nervous, he was sick on the floor and I cleaned it up, it grossed me out to no end but I did it. I washed my hands, made sure he was fine and went to bed. I woke up and he was sick again. I cleaned like crazy and than I thought well if I get it I get it. My stomach was hungry and I new I had to eat something because I have an ulcer and if I don't eat I will be sick. Now before I would have put my myself on the cracker and water diet for 3 days but I ate!
    I didn't get the flu from him at all.
    Now here is the kicker. For my birthday I got this lovely gift to a beautiful resort in the Hockley. On November 1st I go there for 10:30am and starting at 11:10 I have the energy facial, a swedish massage, manicure and pedicure and they feed my lunch, all of this will be done at 3:30. Now my mind is saying oh gosh what happens if I wake up in the morning feel blah and I go and start having a panic attack? I will end up leaving that place and I just wasted 300.00 of a friends money. But, I say to myself, this is a dream come true. Having all this done and when I leave there I will feel so good and relaxed. I will think positive and I will end up calling you sparky Monday night for a talk.
    My parents were over last night for supper and my mother and I were talking in the kitchen and I was telling her about this web site, how I go to it for support and I also give my support. I couldn't believe what she said to me!! She blames herself! She said she should have known! I told her that it isn't her fault, how was she suppose to know when Gary who has been a doctor for over 35 years had no clue has never heard of this. She said, well I blame myself.
    I know how she feels, being a parent of a 21 year old I blamed myself for an incident when I knew it wasn't my fault. The joys of being a parent I guess.
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    That was a fantastic post and it was brilliant to read!! It really made me feel positive, and you are right, we can beat this. I am trying to change my thought patterns and I really want to. Part of me is really positive, upbeat and ready for anything...but...there is always this voice at the back of my head that says 'what if you get sick'. it stops me doing so much with my life and is really holding me back. i admire your courage and strength to beat this and it sounds like you are well on your way. i wish I could be as strong as you and really kick this thing in the ass!! I can't describe how nice it was to read your post and to know that you are one step ahead and that it really is possible to see things in a completely different light. Your right - so what!

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    Here here!


    When i was little i used to want to do loads of exciting things and my parents would book things for me to do. But when the day came i would get panicky and refuse to go. My mum didnt know why i was panicing but she did the hard (but best) thing and forced me to go on some of these activities. I used to cry and run to try and get out of things but she brought me back and made me go. I cant believe how selfish the panic made me and how much i hurt my mum by making her push me away from safety. I am so glad she did it though because i had so many fun times. I still experience "catastrophic thinking patterns" but i can say 'hang on a minute, you've done this before and nothing bad happened last time' and even if it does, i have a new mantra: 'so what?'


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