propanolol

[Eternity]

dangerous or ok...? from a emetophobic point of view.

I told him I was emetophobic and wouldnt take something if the main side effects are nausea or vomitting.


He gives me a drug where the key side effects seem to be nausea, vomitting, diorreah, constipation and abdominal pains.

[yenn]

refuse to take it. if you have to pay for the prescription you have a right to refuse a drug you don't want.

[Eternity]

Im right back to square one [img]smileys/smilies_06.gif[/img]


Whats the f***ing point?


I had to argue damn hard to get this appointment, and he perscribes me what is turning out to be the most unsutiable drug possible. Whats the point in any of this? I should just f***ing kill myself and get it over with


Maybe I could self medicate with some sleeping pills n weed or something.


Edit: ok so I dont mean that. The part about sleeping pills n suicide I mean.
Does anyone actually smoke pot? It is a very effective chill out drug, but because of the number of people who seem to throw up when they first try it, Ive been put off. Maybe it could be effective though... has anyone ever tried...? Then again theres the paranoia thing. Grr. Im f***ed. I dont know what to do.



Im not taking a pill thats likely to make me sick, that wont make me feel better will it? Edited by: Eternity

[Eternity]

Grr. the more research I do, the more unsure I am.. some sites say that Vomitting is a common side effect. Others suggest that any side effects atall are rare, and dont actually include vomitting in the list of possibles, only nausea. I could cope with that. But I dont know which to believe, which is true?


Where can I find a reliable source of info on the net? Anyone...?
Maybe I should just get the pills and read what the info with them says and then decide...? I just want to curl up n sleep forever, n tomorrow morning my new deal person is ringing to see whats going on, and I dont have any answers for her [img]smileys/smilies_11.gif[/img]

[2jo2]

First of all, why propranolol???? My husband took that for the longest time to prevent migraine headaches. It's a blood pressure medication. WTF - I'm confused! Is it for anxiety too???


On that same note, the one side effect my husband had from propranolol was that it was wicked hard to wake up in the morning, and it was just about impossible for him to exercise without getting light headed. It decreased his blood pressure so much that it affected him that way. In no way did he ever have stomach side effects from it.

[sillygirl]

Try calling a pharmacist. They can usually give you a little mor einsight as to what the most ocmmon side effects are. Unfortunately, almost all drugs have a side effect of v*. I am always scared to take something I have never taken that lists v* as a side effect, but so far nothing I have taken with that side effect has even made me n*. Try asking a doctor or pharmacist if there is anything you can take with it tofight any n* or v* that may come from it.

[sunshine16]

I once was on a
medication for a throat infection, but I refused to take it. On the
little Health Watch info thingy about the persrcption, it talked about
how the main side effects were n* and v*. My Mom was really nagging me
about how I needed to take it, or I would be worse than what the side
effects could possibly be. Finally, I called Telehealth Ontario, a
phone line where you can talk to registered nurses 24/7. I explained my
Emet to her and my fears of taking the meds, and she comforted me.
Because of law, pramasicsts (sp?) have to list all</span>
possible side effects EVER happened, could be in the year 2, but they
have to list it to cover their asses in case something does happen.
Also, she explained, that you can v* from anything, however, they have
to list it when it comes to medicine because of all the hype around
drugs etc. She told me: "Lipstick is no different than Meds. You CAN v*
from it, but it doesn't mean you will." She reassured me, and Eternity,
if I were you, I would take the meds. After my convo w/ the nurse, I
did. And I was absolutly fine. Hah, a side effect of ANTI EMETICS they
have to list is v*. Just because its there doesn't mean it will happen.
Eternity, you will be worse off if you don't takek these meds, so trust
me when I say, it will be alright.

Hugz,

*Laura</font>

[japa]

Yeah, I had never heard of this drug, but from what I saw on the google search, a few of the sites say that it is a beta-blocker. What I know about beta-blockers is that they are used for heart patients and hypertension patients, but in smaller doses, they are also used to calm the rapid heartbeat symptoms of panic attacks. There is a whole controversy surrounding professional classical musicians and whether they are cheating in their performances by taking beta blockers, which will reduce their nervousness and shaking, and make them play, say, the violin more proficiently.


I know that one only takes a beta blocker on an as needed basis. If you are having a panic attack, you would take one to calm down. If you needed to leave your house, you would take one to calm down, and more than likely, you would not give a rat's ass about leaving the house. The reason that I say that is because one of my close male friends was prescribed beta blockers by a psychiatrist at his university. He had said he gets a racing heart and fears he will vomit or faint whenever he has to give a presentation in graduate school. He takes a couple of beta blockers a half an hour before the presentation, and he told me, that he sits so calmly in class before the presentation, and then he thinks, "Let me up in front of the class. I've got something to tell you all."


The same goes for my sister's former boss, an M.D. with a lab doing research on the AIDS virus. He has public speaking anxiety, and he sweats excessively before professional presentations. He takes the beta blocker, feels calm, and does not sweat the two big embarrassing armpit stains onto his shirt.


I would say to check the doctor's indications on the Proponalol (sp?) prescription. Does it say to take once daily? Or does it say to take it as needed?

[Eternity]

It is a beta blocker. See what beta blockers do is block your bodys response to adrenaline, which brings your blood pressure down. I believe the lowered blood pressure is why they help with migranes? but Im not familiar with what causes migranes really. Anyway, its effective on heart conditions, panic and a number of other things just because it blocks the adrenaline response and stops you getting your heart rate up n generally getting into panic mode.

Ive been put on 80mg (im pretty sure it was 80- my dr.s handwriting is awful) which is a high dose from what I can gather, and Im to take take it daily, which seems odd, especially since I dont think itll help much with symptoms of general anxiety, only full on panic, and I have doubts that theyre effective for day to day anxiety anyway:


'Beta blockers block the receptors for the physical effects of a person's natural fight or flight response. They are not sedatives, and they can't help anxiety of a purely psychological nature. Propranolol causes more central nervous system side effects, such as hallucinations, nightmares, and depression, than other beta blockers.'
(source http://www.ethanwiner.com/BetaBlox.html-article on use of beta blockers in musicians to prevent performance anxiety)


The good news, is that I asked two pharmacies and they said that vomitting was a extremely rare side effect, and in fact any side effect atall from this type of drug is relatively rare. If I experience anything, it would appear dizziness would be the favourite (pretty likely since I have had low blood pressure everytime Ive been checked anyway, and I dont eat half the time [img]smileys/smilies_09.gif[/img]) but I can cope with that I guess so Im going to try them.. if only so that I can go back in two weeks having proved theyre no good.


Edited by: Eternity

[japa]

Well, yeah, I don't exactly see why you would take them each day. It's not like you will be feeling a fight or flight response every single day.

[Eternity]

Sure it is.. everytime I try to walk out of the door. Lol. Well I started them last night and I dont feel any different. Im going to wait a few days before I start off on my 'I told you these wouldnt work' thing. But as I understand it I think theyre meant to kick in pretty fast.


Ohh n s***s and giggles to get these too- I sent my mother right, n asked her to get tablets if poss instead of those gel capsule things, cuz I find it hard to swallow these, so, she went to one and they said they werent avaliable in tablets but then she tried another one and they said they were, but gave her 80mg tablets with the instruction to take 2 daily, and the guy who gave her the capsule ones said it was safe to break them and just swallow the lil beads inside, but the other one said that wasnt safe.. lol Basically the world doesnt know what its talking about.

[Eternity]

Update...


ermm. 3 days I think. Yea 3 days into taking these and theyre not working atall.


I dont feel any different, which is odd. Oh, except that I get dizzy easier if I dont eat, and I feel tireder, and its sort of harder to breathe if I exert myself,or so much as walk upstairs. Lol.Not like wheezing or anything scary, but I just cant get a proper breath, you know? Like when you really need to yawn but cant quite yawn deep enough to make it satisfying.


Blehhh. Oh well. Im already thinking about the what next bit... you know, dare I actually go into a doctors surgery? After I actually did persuade one to come out, he had so little time for me that Im almost resigned to the fact that Im going to need to go in if Im gonna get anywhere.. but I dont feel different.. so I doubt its gonna happen. Im heading for getting signed off sick. Thatd be fatal, I could stay signed off for almost-ever... why would I get better when my illness becomes my financial security like that? n yet really Impast caring. K sara sara.

[alongmoore]

It's important to remember that the likelihood of experiencing the side effects listed on medications is pretty low... as has been said, everything is listed so that folks can't come back and say they weren't warned in case ANYTHING happens.


Sometimes medication is more important than the fear of side effects.

[japa]

Did you test whether the medication is working by seeing if you panic when you leave your house? That would be good test.

[mjewell]

Have you tried Xanax? it is the best thing that has ever happened to me, and no side effects except drowsiness. I know a ton of people who take it as needed and not one person has had a bad side effect except drowsiness.

[Eternity]

I actually panic worse... I still feel panicked, but maybe slightly more quietly so? I cant feel blood pounding in my ears say, but everything else is still the same.. really worse because without as intense a physical reaction to focus on i feel quite sick instead =/